I am asking for any advice related to upgrading from xp to vista. I have heard many bad things regarding devices and programs not working after the upgrade. is it true? I did a vista utility upgrade check on my system and it said ok but it gave me a report which shows a number of programs and device (my canon scanner) that may not work after the upgrade. If so, this will be very bad and I don't want to invest more on buying new stuffs just to satisfy vista's requirements.

Hi Anson,
Is it worthwhile? That depends. Is your current operating system doing everything you need it to and supporting all your programs? Is there something in Vista that you need that is not available otherwise? Is there some software that you want to use that will only work under it?
Basically, if what you have is doing what you need it to do, then upgrading would be a matter of personal preference.
The upgrade advisor only reports on what it knows about, and it can miss potential problems. Many programs will run just fine under Vista, some may need to use compatibility mode, others may require an update or patch from the software vendor. You'd need to check with each on these.
As to device drivers, again you'd need to check with the manufacturer on any indicated devices or check them against the HCL here: https://winqual.microsoft.com/HCL/Default.aspx
Best of Luck,
Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP mvp.support.microsoft.com/ Windows help - rickrogers.org My thoughts rick-mvp.blogspot.com
"Anson"

Learning from experience of my customers, I believe you should wait with upgrading to Vista. It is not yet ready and I'd say you should wait at least until SP1 is released. It is worth buying Vista with a brand new computer.

«Kono kuni wa mada, hontô no hero wo shiranai»
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Anson wrote:

Anson
Take the report the Upgrade Advisor created and check each application and device at the manufacturer's website. Some manufacturers are writing drivers for older devices and updates to software whereas others aren't.
You could also check Google to see if other people are having problems with the devices or software.
At the end of the day only you can decide to upgrade or not. If applications and devices you want/need working aren't going to work then I wouldn't at the moment.

Hi Anson,
If you have at least 1GB RAM and 128 MB Video, you should be OK since you ran the upgrade advisor.
My only advice is to do a clean install and not upgrade from within XP. Here's a link that shows you how to do a clean install with a Upgrade version of Vista.
vistax64.com/tutorials/68767-clean-install.html?ltr=C
Hope this helps, Shawn
brink
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It certainly was worth it for me.

Regards,
Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User (For email, remove the obvious from my address)

"Anson"

On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 13:22:01 -0700, Anson wrote:

First of all, my own experience with Vista is excellent. All my hardware works fine (including my Canon scanner) and the only software that didn't work were a couple of utilities (not surprisingly) which I had to replace.
Nevertheless, my view is that you're going about this backward. A change of operating system should be driven by need, not just because there is a new version available. Are you having a problem with your present version of Windows that you expect Vista to solve? Do you have or expect to get new hardware or software that is supported in Vista, but not in your present version of Windows? Is there some new feature in Vista that you need or yearn for? Does your job require you have skills in Vista? Are you a computer hobbyist who enjoys playing with whatever is newest?
If the answer to one or more of those questions is yes (and your hardware is adequate for Vista), then you should get Vista. Otherwise most people should stick with what they have. There is *always* a learning curve and a potential for problems when you take a step as big as this one, regardless of how wonderful whatever you're contemplating moving to is. Sooner or later you'll have to upgrade (to Vista or its successor) because you'll want support for hardware or software that you can't get in your present version of Windows, but don't rush it.
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User Please Reply to the Newsgroup

On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 13:22:01 -0700, Anson wrote:

mentions suspect will cause problems once you start the actual install process. What may have just been 'could cause', all too often ends up being 'WILL CAUSE', meaning the install won't finish and you could get stuck in limbo with no Vista and worse, a damaged install of your prior XP operating system. While scary, if you take precautions and correct or disable all reported issued beforehand you have far less chance of running into problems.
As far as your hardware, yep, much of it may need new Vista capable drivers. MANY printers, scanners, network cards, video cards won't work at all or work well unless they have Vista drivers. Worse, some older hardware isn't scheduled to get Vista updated drivers anytime soon if ever, especially older printers and scanners, so check your vendor's web site beforehand to see if they have or at least plan on offering updated drivers for your particular model. Canon seems better than HP or Epson in this regard.

thank you Rick
Anson
"Rick Rogers" wrote:

thanks
Anson
"Jonathan M. "TacticalSniper" Boyko" wrote:

thanks Neil
Anson
"Neil Harley" wrote:

thanks
Anson
"brink" wrote:

my xp is working perfectly. but i just want to try something new on my computer and see if it works out ok
Anson
"philo" wrote:

true. i agree with you.
thanks
Anson
"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

You've heard from almost all of the persons who frequently offer very good help on this forum....so I thought maube you would like the opinion of an average user like me........... I ran Vista Beta RC1 and RC2 I upgraded my Acer Laptop to Vista.Home Premium .....for shipping charge only Even though I did not run into any major problems running RC1 and 2 in both 32 and 64 bit mode on older NVidea Chipsets nor on a not very popular ULI chipset mobo and managed to find all of the specific drivers for my 2 Canon MP scanner/copier/printers and the other various sundry pieces of hardware that I have on 2 machines ..I would be very reluctant to spend $200.00 at the present time for this OS. XP SP2 works fine with everything I have..software and hardware...and the addition of a few security tools makes it almost bullet proof. As with any new OS there is quite a bit of searching to do to find hardware drivers that function properly...a year from now it will be easier. As for the Vista I am running at the present time on the Acer...I had one major problem with Event Services not starting and finding drivers for the Build in Acer Webcam.The install was easy and so was the re-install to fix the event viewer problem.I blame Acer for the webcam problem which s solved now. BUT..if it would not have been "free" I would have waited a year. and that is my $.02 peter "Anson"

If It Ain't Broke, Don't Fix It
That is a fundamental principle to live by, especially in this situation.
If your XP system does what you need doing, and there is no new major software app you HAVE to use that only runs in Vista, why set yourself up for the expense and trouble?
On the other hand, if you're in the market for a new computer because your present one broke or is just too old to keep up with what you demand of it (and it's not worth investing in any upgrades, such as RAM), then you are pretty much faced with Vista as the only alternative. In this case, you're buying a PC that the maker is "assuring" you is fully compatible with Vista, to include drivers and installed crapware.
I'm running Vista on a laptop I bought just before Vista shipped, it runs OK. I do not expect I'll put Vista on any of the other machines around my home. At the office, I gotta go with what my ITS folks set as their supported standard, which will be XP for at least a year.
Val
"Anson"

thank you . Adam
i probably will wait until when i get my next computer
Anson
"Adam Albright" wrote:

well.. after you said and others' comments, i think it is not worth upgrading it
Anson
"peter" wrote:

true. maybe i only need to upgrade my hardware rather than keep bothering with the newest software platform
Thanks
Anson
"Val" wrote:

"Anson"

I definately would not bother to upgrade to Vista if XP is doing all that it should. Though I'm sure Vista is fine for all those who get it with a new machine... I've given it a try and don't really see any advantages it offers over XP... There were a few disadvantages however!
So if XP is working for you right now...why take a chance ?

On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 13:22:01 -0700, Anson wrote:

1) ask yourself what is in vista that you 'need'
2) many competent consultants are advising clients to wait for at least SP1

On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 14:18:00 -0700, Anson wrote:

How about trying a Linux Live CD like Knoppix or Elive? You can try it wout without even doing an install - will boot and run from the CD.

Peddle it to the Chinese. Oh! Wait! You can't. They are too busy pirating Vista. Seems that being "FREE" isn't the only parameter that comes into play over there. It has to be functional also.

Regards,
Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User (For email, remove the obvious from my address)

"ray"

"Anson"

I advice installing Vista on a seperate partition and dual booting.
If it works...great...if it doesn't work...you'll still have a good, working OS!

ray wrote:

1) Need...? All any man (real) needs is a spear, a cave and a woman. All else is filed under want. 2) many incompetent consultants have no idea what they are doing and are afraid to put their as* on the line. Society is filled with followers afraid to take that first step until a real leader comes along. ALL HAIL BG & SB!!! THE REAL LEADERS OF OUR CAPITALISTIC SOCIETY! All the rest need not apply (hint: free bullsh*t software,i.e., all linux distros and the loser that promote that crap). Frank

For business purposes, I definitely agree - wait until it gets better. Every new OS has compatibility issues with either hardware, software, or both, and the potential risk to important data is too great.
For private home use, Vista is great, but I have very little important info on my system and nothing critical. If something goes wrong, I don't have to worry about whether my backups are from yesterday or last week. Everything can be duplicated in just a few hours, including downloads, installs, updates, etc.
KB
"ray"

On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 19:05:58 -0700, Frank wrote:

If you will note, I quoted 'need' - implying that it is all relative.

Ah! That's it - you're one of those (imcompetent consultants - in case you had any doubt).

Not worthy of a reply except to note that mostly, people denegrate that which they fear.

On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:25:43 -0400, Richard Urban wrote:

Exactly. That is why I suggested several Linux distros which are available as Live CDs.

ray wrote:

You mean like a few linux losers who troll this ng denigrating Windows? Good point and I heartily agree. THX Frank

thanks for your advice
Anson
"ray" wrote:

On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 08:36:41 -0700, Frank wrote:

I was quickly scanning this group reading this informative and interesting exchange on VISTA when I was again reminded how jerks like Frank can interject their galactic ego and astounding stupidity into a conversation and spoil it for everyone else. Does Frank really think that, at this point, anyone cares if he is even alive, much less what he thinks?

On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 08:36:41 -0700, Frank wrote:

You may note that, in contrast to your comments about Linux, I have not said a word about the quality of MS - I let it speak for itself.
I do wonder why you are so afraid of Linux. After all, Linux is about choice, and it you don't like it, then no one is pushing you to use it - still, I see all this paranoia.

"Frank"

many? hmm, interesting. I would have thought that ALL "incompetent" consultants would have no idea what they were doing. so.. you're suggesting that there are incompetent consultants who -do- know what they are doing?
ok, got it. know any? LOL

If ignorance is bliss, you must be the happiest person alive.
======================================= "About three million computers get sold every year in China, but people don't pay for the software. Someday they will, though. As long as they are going to steal it, we want them to steal ours. They'll get sort of addicted, and then we'll somehow figure out how to collect sometime in the next decade." - Bill Gates =======================================

kda wrote:

Oh and you are the divine Saviour? You think anyone cares if you're alive much less what you think? Grow up! Frank

ray wrote:

So stop pretending. You're not fooling anyone. You're in an MS ng promoting open sores software at every chance. You've already expressed your deep dislike for all things MS. As for your snide remark..."afraid of Linux"...what on earth makes you think anyone, let alone me, is afraid of a piece of free software? It's you who have invaded this ng. Why are you here? Are you afraid of MS? You use on open sores software...so why are you here? It's obvious to all that you are the one who has exhibited definite paranoia and are very much afraid of all things MS otherwise you wouldn't be here! Frank

Frank wrote in news:uz2xN08qHHA.4132 TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:
< ALL HAIL BG & SB!!!
At least you are *finally* admitting that you do worship BG & (MonkeyMan) SB.
Enough said.