A month and a half ago I purchased a brand new HP PC with Windows Vista..
After just a couple of weeks working on it, and having problem after problem, I started asking everyone I could find. Espically Office Depot, Staples etc employees.
Everyone HATES Vista. It just sucks.
It crahes a lot, really a lot. It is very unstable, and doesn't work with most hardware additions. Plus every single program that I have loaded and tried to use tht programs help function, Vista does not support it and now no help from all the programs.
I spent over $1,000.00 on this new PC.
Finally today, another PC, ordered from eBay that I bought arrived. It of course has Windows XP on it.
I am now going to put the brand new machine with Vista for sale on ebay.
I am so far behind in my work because Vista ran so slow and had to reboot several times a day. I can't wait to get back on with Windows XP.
The people at Midrosoft who designed Vista, really need to get another job, designing operating systems is obviously not anything they are good at.
Anyone thinking of upgraded your existing PC from Windows XP to Vista, DON'T DO IT!
You will regret it.
It is so bad and hated by so many users, Microsoft really should RECALL everysingle copy of it, and then burn it. They should give Windows XP to all the computer makers, like HP and others so they can biuld a new master restore CD set to install XP over vista for all those machines sold with Vista pre-installed.
There is only one way to describe Vista, it is gargage. That simple

"Me"

I still have some Win 3.0 and 3.11 floppies would you like a copy? oops that's not allowed..... and DOS 5.0.......and in my "junk" box some old Commadore 64 games.... MB

Really...Did you know that the VAST majority of Vista users are not having any problems at all..I will put my Vista machine up against any xp machine and win....If you were really having all those problems did you try posting a detailed question in hopes that you would get it fixed...We cannot help you if you do not wish us too "yasmin Hussain"

"yasmin Hussain"

What did HP say when you contacted their support line?

"yasmin Hussain" wrote

Vista runs well on the right hardware, with the right drivers and software. You need to work the problems out with HP, since this is an OEM installation. Go back to the beginning before any 3rd party software is installed, remove all the crapware that get's put on the installation by the OEM, and work it until you get a stable running system. Then image the system to an external hard drive using Acronis True Image Home version 10. After that start adding software and hardware testing in between each change, and rectify any problems before moving on. Frequently image the system as you go along.
Other than these suggestions no one can provide you with focused help as your post is to vague, other than to say the system has problems. It could be hardware, drivers, the installation by HP, 3rd party software you installed or a combination of all of them.
Do not blame the OS here. When you get a new system from a computer manufacturer it should run well right out of the box. If it did not then start with HP. If it ran well but problems developed look at the changes you made or at hardware failure or both.
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

yasmin Hussain wrote:

Right there is your problem! You failed to go to Wally-mart where all of the real Vista experts are working. Sorry, too bad, you screwed! Frank

"yasmin Hussain"

You turn to them for advice? You have just destroyed any hopes you ever had at credibility....

I, for one, do not "hate" Vista. I find it to be stable, but I am not yet convinced that it is the right OS for me. There is nothing inherently wrong with with Vista.

You cannot blame a new OS for not working with your old hardware.
Plus every single program that I have loaded and

Can you cite an example? every program that I have used with Vista, even those not expressly compatible with Vista, had fully functional help.

You probably spent more for your car. Can you diagnose and fix every problem with you rcar yourself? When your car has a problem, and you have to take it to a mecanic and have it diagnosed and repaired, do you tell your mechanic "I spent $20,000 on this car!". Of course not.

Wise choice. Let someone that has the ability to deal calmly and rationally with it.

And we can't wait to hear the end of your whining and rants.

Okay, then how about you desing one yourself? Your statement makes is appear that you believe that you know more about designing and building an OS than they do.

Why? Do you think everyone is an idiot like you?

On the other hand...you'll regret someday not moving on to Vista....

Perhaps when you get back to your planet, you can organize a movement to get that done. Here on Earth, I think Vista will stay. Be sure to drop a line and say goodbye before you leave our fair planet. I hope you enjoyed your brief stay here....
They should give Windows XP to all

Do you think the OEMS could not have done this already if demand was high enough? You show your complete lack of understanding of the market when you make claims like that.

And the only way to describe your post is childish (as are you), plain and simple.
Honu

"yasmin Hussain"

"Everyone" hates Vista? I don't, and many people I know, including clients of mine, like it too. I dual boot it with XP, and it out performs my XP hands down. Haven't had a single hiccup or problem. Hehe, well, couldn't do Aero because of Intel's POS 915 chip set, but a new Video card fixed that. No big deal. ...AND, no, you DON'T want to install ANY OS "over" another. (Upgrades, downgrades or whatever) Clean Installs is the ONLY safe way to go, always has been! Don't know what hardware you choose to go with, but you should ALWAYS EXCEED minimum system requirements with any version of windows, otherwise you can pretty much guarantee it to run slow. Has been that way from the very beginning of windows. (Yeah, I was there in the beginning. Showing my age I guess)
I have to go with the other questions posed to you. Did you seek out support? Or did you have problems and just decide Windows is the cause of all the problems? Could have been hardware problems right out of the box. I've seen it, and had that sort of failure my self. Sucks, but it happens. In any case, enjoy your XP machine.
Cheers

"yasmin Hussain"

Well, geez, sure, some folks are having a less than exuberant experience with Vista. And for those folks, yeah, Vista sucks. And... there ARE folks who are having a good experience with Vista. (Count me in that group.)
I can only assume, since you spent approximately one grand on your PC, that you got Vista Home Premium and your box has at least 1GB RAM. You didn't disclose those details in your post. Assuming I'm correct, then you would need to disclose, further, your hardware specs for anyone in this NG to be able to assist you.
There's an update that fixes the Help system issue. Guess you didn't find that in your attempts to fix the issue. (Assuming any attempts were made.)
I belong to the group that subscribes to the theory that many immature 3rd party drivers can cause major headaches, even on new OEM boxes. You may not subscribe to that theory, but... MS is not responsible for 3rd party drivers, no matter what any Linux trolls or bull-in-a-china-shop XP fans may posit. Pfffflbbbbtttttt!!!!
Guess all of the above is moot. You've decided. You've moved on. This post is really only for those that might read your BS and wonder if it's true. The Linux trolls will, no doubt, respond that it is true and you must get your butt over to the Ubuntu site to get your copy of Heiny Hole or whatever the latest release is named... Feisty Fawn, whatever. The XP trolls will tell you all about their predictions and how you will rue the day you ever entered the world of Vista. Guaranteed.
Life goes on.
Lang

Justin wrote:

HAHAHAHA! That's funny!
Alias

Troll alert..
"Rock"

Mike Hall MS MVP Windows Shell/User msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/

I am sure you will find a way to mess up XP also!!
nntp://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.vista.general/
A month and a half ago I purchased a brand new HP PC with Windows Vista.. After just a couple of weeks working on it, and having problem after problem, I started asking everyone I could find. Espically Office Depot, Staples etc employees. Everyone HATES Vista. It just sucks. It crahes a lot, really a lot. It is very unstable, and doesn't work with most hardware additions. Plus every single program that I have loaded and tried to use tht programs help function, Vista does not support it and now no help from all the programs. I spent over $1,000.00 on this new PC. Finally today, another PC, ordered from eBay that I bought arrived. It of course has Windows XP on it. I am now going to put the brand new machine with Vista for sale on ebay. I am so far behind in my work because Vista ran so slow and had to reboot several times a day. I can't wait to get back on with Windows XP. The people at Midrosoft who designed Vista, really need to get another job, designing operating systems is obviously not anything they are good at. Anyone thinking of upgraded your existing PC from Windows XP to Vista, DON'T DO IT! You will regret it. It is so bad and hated by so many users, Microsoft really should RECALL everysingle copy of it, and then burn it. They should give Windows XP to all the computer makers, like HP and others so they can biuld a new master restore CD set to install XP over vista for all those machines sold with Vista pre-installed. There is only one way to describe Vista, it is gargage. That simple
[microsoft.public.windows.vista.general]

It is OK to hate Vista. But a real owner of a new PC in that situation would merely reformat and put on a different operating system and not take the loss of selling the new PC. I doubt this post is from a real user with real issues.
Richard.

Everyone HATES Vista? Not everyone. I don't remember you sending out a survey.
I spoke with the authorities and they said that Yasmin will have to give up his Vista and move to Ubuntu.
Pack up your computer. They will arrive later today.
"yasmin Hussain"

"Mike Hall MVP" wrote in news:eiBPLaGnHHA.4188 TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:

Yep, another person that posted here in the 'MS Community forums' to blow off steam about the problems the've had with Vista being called a troll.

Dan
The OP should at least ask the right people about the problems.. the right people do not exist in the major computer stores.. HP have support staff and webpages, and should be the first port of call, especially if the computer is brand new..
It also helps to outline the problems rather than just say that Vista sucks.. also, do you really believe that the OP is going to sell a brand new $1000 HP computer that is totally screwed up on eBay?
"DanS"

Mike Hall MS MVP Windows Shell/User msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/

"Mike Hall MVP"

Bingo! Not to mention the outrageous claims that EVERYONE hates Vista? Absolute flame bait.

Justin wrote:

Do you think you're in church, Justy Wusty?

It should be clarified as any one with any sense hates Vista.

You're one of the ones that swallowed MS' con about Vista, speaking of bait.
alias

"Alias"

You are a waste of time.

"Richard" wrote:

No, it's not, Vista is an inanimate object, nothing more that a bit of software. Hating such means the OP needs to spend considerable time with Dr. Phil or seek other professional help.

But it's from a real troll with real trolling issues, just another one of the sickos getting so common here.

Justin wrote:

You don't have any common sense.
Alias

"Mike Hall MVP" wrote in news:OdRANUInHHA.4872 TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl:

Yes the OEM should be.

Sure, they'll get $300 or $400 maybe. The purchaer will either get it to work properly, or install another OS, whatever the OS may be, on it.
Go ahead, call them anything that applies.......idiot, stupid, mis- guided, child, etc.
But again, just saying Vista sucks != troll.

"Justin" wrote in news:OVjzbdInHHA.4772 TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:

Since it will get your attention in this thread, I'm going to re-ask a question I posted to you in the thread entitled '4 th Activation'.
In a post there you had stated:

My question is, what are the names of some of these s/w's you have developed ?

DanS wrote:

The only one he's developed is software to enable an iPod to act as a vibrator. He runs around with it firmly up his derrière as his posts here so vividly confirm.
Alias

On Tue, 22 May 2007 08:34:18 -0700, "Justin" wrote:

Get a life you freaking moron! Justin you are by FAR, the biggest poster of flame bait and other off topic posts. How many times has Alias kicked your ass now?
A thousand times, two thousand?

"DanS"

Why? So you can crap on it? No thanks. I believe that would be non of your business and WHICH apps is irrelevant to the prior conversion which is why I ignored you the first time.
I guess you aren't capable of "getting a clue".
Now, troll on and make your inevitable BS comments.

"Adam Albright"

You never answered the question. How old are you?

"DanS"

I'd like to know as well - hell, if it's as good as he says it is I might even buy it. apparently he thinks there's enough demand for it to worry about cracks showing up. so? what about it Justin? how about a link?
(prediction - he will not answer your straightforward question out of embarrassment)
======================================= "If you can't make it good, at least make it look good." - Bill Gates =======================================

"john"

1. I never said how good it was. What did I just tell you about those stories of yours? Even you are mixing your stories with reality and are starting to believe your own crap.
2. You would buy an app based on review whether or not you have any need for the app? You have no clue as to what the apps are I dev. Trymedia does NOT only sell games. That was an ASSumption on your part.

Worry? I made no such comment. More stories.

That's funny, according to the time stamp I answered it BEFORE you posted this message. I guess that would make you not only wrong but a complete a$$ on top of it. Congrats.

Justin wrote:

Translation: Justy Wusty hasn't written any software and is lying again. Back pedaling seems to be the order of the day with Justy.
Alias

"Justin" wrote in news:ezs2NXJnHHA.3968 TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl:

I figured as much....
Just more vapor-ware.

"Alias"

If that's the justification you need to give yourself then good for you.

"DanS"

If that's the justification you need to give yourself then good for you.