Thousands of users need a remedy to the KB 931768 faux pax from MS. The MVP's, who abide in these forums, appear to be silent on this issue...other than offering a few dismal side-step suggestions.
Mary Nothing else to say!

What do MVP's have to do with this "issue"?
BTW, I haven't noticed any problems with the update.
"Mary Kaspar"

"Mary Kaspar"

Ingrate... vampire... etc.
Are you always so mean to volunteers?
Besides... the problem is NOT a Vista issue but more accurately described as an Internet Explorer one since it is occurring on XP as well.
You may find an artery to suck at microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general.

Mary Kaspar wrote:

Are you somehow under the impression that they somehow report things back to MS tech support, or fix the problem themselves?
Perhaps you didn't realize that they are simply users, like the rest of us?


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"Dave"

There are several people who have had a problem whereby their Internet Explorer has been screwed by an autoupdate of the "fix" but, generally, they have taken the issue to the appropriate forum.... microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general since it is NOT a Vista specific event.
The short term solution is to uninstall the fix.

Thanks for explaining this...at least I've learned one thing today! Nothing else to say!
"Chris Barnes" wrote:

You're the gourmet Eddie!
Nothing else to say!
"Julian" wrote:

"Chris Barnes"

If I had a penny for everything she didn't realise I'd be a wealthy man. Had she held her tongue for a moment and did a little browsing of this group she may have found a thread... Windows Update just MURDERED Internet Explorer
Lets be charitable and assume she has misplaced her HRT.

Hi Mary,
First things first, in French one says "faux pas" not "faux pax". Just a little "tache de beauté", appart from that it is perfect French :-))
Could you please tell me what the problem is with that KB ? I have installed all the updates and haven't come across any problem whatsoever.

"Mary Kaspar" wrote:

"Geo"

Most people who have had a problem reported it in the internetexplorer.general group... it is not a Vista issue, but there is a running thread here too...
Windows Update just MURDERED Internet Explorer

Dave wrote:

Got phishing disabled in IE7?
Alias

Mary Kaspar wrote:

They're waiting for further instructions from Big Brother. Unfortunately, Big Brother has yet to figure out a solution.
Love and Kisses, Doris
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Mary Kaspar wrote:

What "KB931768 faux pas?" Do you actually have a real problem/question? If so, please describe it, in detail.

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"Bruce Chambers"

Loss of HRT tablets. They were in the bathroom cabinet.

The MVP's are all offline because their FRIGGIN' IE7 DIED due to Microsoft's Faulty patch and the MVPs are no longer able to access the Internet because they do not know how to use Firefox.
We're on our own.
Sheesh, I never realized when I gave Best Buy my $200 that I was not buying and OS but was in fact signing up to be part of the world's largest public beta program.
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On Fri, 11 May 2007 13:08:55 -0500, Chris Barnes wrote:

Most experienced users realize it all too well.
ROTFLMAO!
The saga continues...
Three things are certain in life:
1. death 2. taxes 3. Microsoft "security" patches

wrote

I applied the update and haven't had a problem. This is not to say that some systems have had a problem with it. The problems associated with that update apply to both Vista and XP, so it's not a Vista specific issue. The better forum for these issues is the internet explorer newsgroup and the windows update newsgroup.
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

"Mary Kaspar" wrote

Mary, you seem to have a wrong idea about who the MVPs are. We are just users, like yourself, recognized by MS for helping out in a variety of ways, including in the newsgroups, but in many other ways as well. We are not employees of MS, and most are not associated with them beyond the honorary title. We are not involved in the issuance of or issuing fixes for problems with updates from MS. We just try to help out other users.
See this link for more info on what an MVP is.
mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

"Rock"

She's confused enough without throwing facts at her.

This problem has already been solved. See here:
windowshelp.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.mspx?dg=microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general&tid=2cba118d-6172-483e-85cd-616cea82cd63&cat=&lang=en&cr=US&sloc=en-us&m=1&p=1
"Julian" wrote:

Dave wrote:

Aside from a few bad apples, most MVPs are volunteers helping people out with problems they post here. The MVPs cannot fix any issue that MS has not fixed. They have their hands full as it is with the poor quality of MS products.
Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group: protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html
Most recent idiotic quote added to KICK (Klassic Idiotic Caption Kooks): "It would be nice if there was a check to see if you were running an activated/validated version of Windows before you were allowed to post in any of these news groups. If you're not activated/validated your post automatically gets deleted. That would get rid of the Linsux Luzzzzzzzzers once and for all."
"Good poets borrow; great poets steal." - T. S. Eliot

1-866-pcsafety is what anyone with an issue with a security patch should call.
Issues with a security patch are a free call.
Let me state that again.
Issues with a security patch are a free call.
I was not impacted by this issue on my Vista machines and unless you have a repro for the MS staff to look at, there's not much that any MVP who doesn't have a sample can do but get in the way.
Many of us were informing Microsoft to ensure they knew of the issue.

Mary Kaspar wrote:

Let's not be picky about vista or IE7 update. let's call it what it is: MICROSOFT CRAP
"Julian" wrote:

they get MONEY to help here. lots of free goodies.
"Dave" wrote:

"Mick"

Yes, dear.

"Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]"

snip
and that works worldwide?

Iuvenalis wrote:

Some people (who are always from the USA) don't understand that this is an international news group.
Alias

Mick wrote:

Figures. Frank

Frank wrote:

You're a snotty snob, huh?
Figures.
Alias

MVPs do not get money for community support. They are all volunteers. You are correct that MVPs get some "free goodies" though.
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"Mick" > they get MONEY to help here. lots of free goodies.

"Cindy Winegarden"

Dunno about free... From what I've seen on these groups they've earned it for the help they give and the abuse they take.

"Mick" wrote

MVPs do not get money to help in the community newsgroups. In fact there is no requirement to help out here. MVPs are just users, volunteering their time. There are some free "goodies" and benefits from MS if the person wants to use them, but that's up to the person. It certainly is in no way compensation for the time and effort spent.
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

It should probably also be mentioned that MVP award is recognition for the efforts that the MVP put in during the past year. That is, when I was awarded as an MVP in October of 2006, that award was in recognition of the efforts I made from 1 October 2005 through 30 September 2006.
Accepting the award does not require any efforts between 1 October 2006 and 30 September 2007 - if I wished, I could post nothing during those twelve months. The only (and likely) result of that would be that I would not be awarded again on 1 October 2007.
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper gmail.com * NEW! Catch my blog ... msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/ * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups * The Website - rgharper.mvps.org/ * HELP us help YOU ... dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
"Rock"

Not sure where you got that idea, but we certainly get no money from Microsoft. Free goodies mostly consist of hats, tshirts, and the occasional book or software.
Dana Cline - MCE MVP
"Mick" > they get MONEY to help here. lots of free goodies.

On May 11, 1:53 pm, Mary Kaspar wrote:

I wish this were the case....
you, my dear, are a moron....
RedForeman

"Dana Cline - MVP"

Well that's at least $800 then!

Factor in the time MVPs spend posting as well as researching problems. You will find that if compensation was a motivation, most would make far more for their time selling hamburgers at minimum wage.
Jupiter Jones [MVP] www3.telus.net/dandemar dts-l.org
"Julian" > Well that's at least $800 then!

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]"

I should have put a ;-)
I know full well, and appreciate, that the MVP's contributions are virtually pure benevolence and they probably don't get much more out of it than the satisfaction of helping others and the occasional nugget of new info/experience for themselves. (No sarcasm.) Cheers.

That'd buy an awful lot of shirts and hats <g>...
Dana Cline - MCE MVP
"Julian"