Why won't vista install or boot with more then 3gb ram?
my brother in law has 4 gb ram. It starts with a G I think. Intel E6600 dual core. asus p5n32-sli-e motherboard.
vista home premium. also another person posted the same hardware cept didn't say what board he has. he had ultimate vista. same problem.
when installing vista it won't get past the scrolling bar from the boot dvd. it bsod. both people get same error. the ram is good too. you boot from dvd. then it starts to show you the scrolling bAR WHILE IT TRIES TO LOAD the boot dvd. it bsod everytime with all 4gb in the pc. take out one stick of ram for 4gb it works fine. put in stick of ram to make it 4gb after it is installed and it won't boot up at all. take ram out for 3gb only and it works fine. all ram is 100% good.

AMD wrote:

I believe that's a mobo problem, not an OS problem, that has to do with the type of RAM being used in the mobo. That'll happen even though all the RAM is good. Ck with your mobo manufacturer and make sure the RAM you are attempting to use is listed by the mobo manufacturer as for use with that particular mobo. I had the same problem with an old BX6 mobo running XP. That last stick killed the boot and the RAM I was using was good but not on the list of the manufacturer as being for that mobo. Frank

"Frank"

well the articlre my brother in law read has all his parts listed so it shouldn't be a problem. with xp it's fine i think, but not 100% sure. The article was pcmag or something that was like $1500 for a gaming pc that he went by part for part. i don't know which article he went by.
if asus does not list this ram on their web site that does not eman it is incompatible per say. i have used many pcs with no issues where the ram is not listed on the mobo web page. so anyhow, how do you proove the ram is at fault? if it's not vista i mean. how can you proove this is a mobo issue?

Hello... Frank is not fully evolved yet so don't blame him for saying foolish things.... he doesn't even have vista installed!
You should download a bootable CD linux distro, like KNOPPIX that is free. You can also try ubuntu or pclinuxos.. you can find all these at distrowatch.com
If you boot with knoppix from the cd and it boots up correctly showing all your ram, then it is clearly a vista specific problem....
I would not be surprised at all... I have seen some very strange things happening with vista.

"AMD"

I want to add.... that these are live cd's.. in other words they run from the cd alone without installing anything on your hard drive. So this way you can test your hardware without causing any problems
Tell me if this helps.
"Spocks Buddy"

Spocks Buddy wrote:

Can't answer the OP's question huh? Who would have thought! You need to dl a brain but I don't think you could figure out how to do that even if one was available. Also the OP is a gamer in which I case I don't think linux will do. Of course you forgot to read that part right? Frank

the linux is to test his hardware and compare the results with vista. I would suggest XP but that would mean he would have to install it.... Im not talking about playing games with linux or even using it other than a diagnostic tool.
Tell me now , do you really have vista? I think you dont!
"Frank"

You prove the RAM is not at fault by substituting quality RAM in the amount you wish. If you still can't boot it is a M/B problem.
I have the same situation. I have 3 RAM slots, 2 of them are for dual RAM. If I install another gig in the 3rd slot I can't boot or even install the O/S from scratch. I have to live with that fact or get a new M/B.

Regards,
Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
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"AMD"

you can probably make them work if you tweak the speed settings of the ram in the bios...
but I guess you didnt know that did you?
"Richard Urban"

Frank
As much as I agree that Spock Buddy is a troll and many other things his call for the OP to use Knoppix to check his issue as described with Vista or any other Windows OS was a correct call. Peter
Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.
"Frank"

Calling me a troll is like saying Martin Luther King was a Nazi.
"Peter Foldes" Frank
As much as I agree that Spock Buddy is a troll and many other things his call for the OP to use Knoppix to check his issue as described with Vista or any other Windows OS was a correct call. Peter
Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.
"Frank"

AMD wrote:

Best advice is to call Asus, tell them your problem. Your problem is that when you use four sticks of RAM the computer won't boot. They have (at least last time if talked to them) very good support personal. Let us know how it turns out. Frank

On Sat, 05 May 2007 21:46:07 -0400, Peter Foldes wrote:

It might not be a definitive test, though. A live-CD trial with a rational, well-behaved OS is not the same as the Vista torture test... like the difference between testing the strength of an army cot with a normal person vs. a 400-lb oaf. Whether you blame the oaf or the cot for failure, it's possible that the cot can be tweaked so as to support the oaf without collapsing.
Charlie

Peter Foldes wrote:

Sorry but I don't agree with you on that point. I've had this very same situation and it had only to do with the type of RAM and the mobo. My advice was to call Asus and let them help/advise the op. Dl'ing another anything else is simply a waste of time and probably will not properly identify the problem. Frank

Spocks Buddy wrote:

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So you're calling MLK a nazi? Is that correct? If so you're one sick SOB! Get a life butt munch. Frank

MLK was not a nazi, and I am not a troll.
simple.
You are too tense... relax....
"Frank"

"Spocks Buddy"

ROTFLMAO! Yeah... right...

Make sure you have the latest BIOS, that the BIOS memory settings are correct including those for the 'memory hole' if available on your BIOS. Then assuming you have a large enough partition (remember that certain files are created based on the amount of memory, such as the pagefile and hiberfile) you've done all you can. Also at those levels of memory you should consider the 64-bit versions. Remember that the BIOS handles the addressing of the additional BIOS's for devices on your system and can set them beyond where the x86 systems can address them (PCI bios, video card bios, etc.)
"AMD"

NOT TRUE I have 4GB ram and both Vista Ultimate x86 and Vista Business x64 installed in about 15-20 mins. with NO problems at all, automatically installing and configuring ALL mb components. Both Vista installs are running flawlessly. AMD 64 X2 processor.
"AMD"

On Sun, 06 May 2007 11:00:48 -0400, Cal Bear '66 wrote:

This is a perfect example of why this group is so useless and annoying.
Charlie

Why is that useless? Confirmation that Vista does indeed boot and use more the 3 gb of ram. The original poster said Vista did not.
Of course what he should have said was "my computer, running vista , wont boot with more then 3 gigs of ram."
Kurt

No, honey buns, YOUR post is THE perfect example of why SOME posters, such as yourself, are totally useless and utterly annoying.
The OP had unequivocally asserted that Vista would not load or run on 4GB of memory. I was merely asserting that he is wrong since both of my Vista installs, x86 and x64, were installed without problems and are running perfectly.
"Charlie Wilkes"

"John Barnes"

Bob, my brother in law has home premium, not available in 64bit on his copy i think.

"Cal Bear '66"

Ok, My brother in laws pc won't boot or install vista with more then 3gb ram.

Perhaps he needs a BIOS update? A faulty RAM module? A BIOS setting?
Vista x86 and Vista x64 can, and does, install easily and run without problems on some (most?) systems with 4GB of RAM.
"AMD"

Frank wrote:

ROFL! Did you even read the post you are replying to?
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Nina DiBoy wrote:

(smirk) Frank

"Cal Bear '66"

as i sais we updated to the newest 1002 bios and the ram is good.

"AMD" wrote:

Dominator PC8500 Ram. The only problem I had was that I orginally used Geil which I'm guessing is what your brother in law has got judging by you saying "I think it begin with a G", that the older versions of Geil memory had a compatibility issue especially when large amounts were installed on Vista. Geil did offer at one point an exchange for reprogrammed modules but I don't know if they are still doing that.
I didn't wait and sold mine on and got the Corsair instead, which Vista installed with no problems apart from it can only see 3070mb in Vista but the full 4Gb shows in the Bios. Now does anyone know how to correct this in Vista as you could easily do it in XP by adding the /PAE switch to the boot.ini file, this will access the full 4GB, but will limit 2GB to the OS and 2GB to other programs. Or if you add the /3GB switch after the /PAE it will allocate 1GB RAM to the OS, and 3GB to all other apps in Control Panel/System/Advanced Start up and Recovery but you can't do that in Vista anymore I can see apart from using DOS!

"Sirrus"

My brother in law has GSkill ram.

On Mon, 7 May 2007 18:56:45 -0700, "AMD" wrote:

I have GSkill ram and upgraded from 2 gigs to 4gigs and Vista kept crashing. (BSOD) Same exact ram, model number ect. . No problem in XP at all. Put ram in other pc and Vista is fine. Ran Memtest all night with zero errors. So why is Vista crashing with 4gigs

"Lisa"

This sounds like Vista was ruched out WAY too early since so many people are having Vista and 4gb ram problems.

Because Vista loads empty ram with stuff it thinks you are going to use, ie pre-caching. It therefore uses more memory.
Xp doesnt. You probably were never going over 2gigs in use, in XP, whereas in Vista, it WILL use whatever free memory you have to speed things up.
A case in point....
My motherboard is a Soyo P4x400. I was running XP with 2 sticks of matched 512 meg ram, and 1 stick of another brand of 512meg. It ran fine.
I upgraded to Vista, and got all kinds of random bsods or resets.
I researched the problem (when to Soyo site), and read the .psd for my mother board. Guess what.... My mother board, even though it has 3 slots, doesnt support 3 512 sticks, just the 2. But it worked in XP, because XP almost never went over a gig in normal use (and now that I think of it, it did crash occasionally when I went bersek and had a ton of stuff going at the same time, but that was so infrequently it didnt register with me as a problem.)
I brought 2 1 gig sticks for my board, and ditched the 512s. Its running fine now, in Vista.
Kurt
Kurt