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Jul 1 2008, 08:22 PM | Tags: Offline Files Indexed Not
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I have a mapped drive to a server (H). I have taken the entire H drive 'offline'. All files are fine and available. However, when I open the H drive and then search for files, no results are returned until I select Advanced Search and then check to 'Include non-indexed, hidden, and system files (might be slow)'.
When I do this, the search is performed fine.
In Indexing Options, I have verified that Offline Files is included.
Any ideas?
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Jul 2 2008, 11:07 AM | Tags: Not Files Indexed Offline
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Hello Richard,
Thank you for posting in the Microsoft newsgroup!
From your post, my understanding on this issue is: the offline files are not indexed. If I have misunderstood your problem, please feel free to let me know.
Can you tell me how you configured index for the offline files?
Offline files are stored in a directory "csc" and this directory is hidden by default. Based on your offline file configuration, it could resize in the root directory or in %windir%. You can index this folder manually and try to search it with index.
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Jul 3 2008, 07:31 AM | Tags: Files Indexed Offline Not
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Step by step follows: 1. In My Computer, I right-click the mapped H drive and choose 'Always Available Offline' 2. Let it sync
That's it, right? I mean, Offline Files is supposed to be simple, right?
Now, I use them, and I search them, and I notice that I don't get any results until I select Advanced Search and then check to 'Include non-indexed, hidden, and system files (might be slow)'.
As previously stated, I then verified that Offline Files was included in the Indexing Options. I did this by performing the following steps: 1. Clicked Start, typed 'Indexing Options', and noted that 'Offline Files' was included in the listed locations.
I don't know what additional information you are asking for. There really isn't that much to give.
Richard
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Hello Richard,
Thank you for posting in the Microsoft newsgroup!
From your post, my understanding on this issue is: the offline files are not indexed. If I have misunderstood your problem, please feel free to let me know.
Can you tell me how you configured index for the offline files?
Offline files are stored in a directory "csc" and this directory is hidden by default. Based on your offline file configuration, it could resize in the root directory or in %windir%. You can index this folder manually and try to search it with index.
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Jul 3 2008, 05:55 PM | Tags: Not Offline Indexed Files
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Hello Richard,
Please try the following steps to enable index on offline network driver: 1. Start Indexing Options with the command "index Options" 2. Click offline files then click Modify->show all locations 3. Click continue on the popped up window and choose all the disk partitions in the Indexed Locations window 4. Close Indexed locations window and click Advanced 5. In Advanced Options Window click Rebuild to rebuild all indexes in all locations.
After the rebuild is finished, test if problem still persistes.
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Jul 4 2008, 12:39 AM | Tags: Offline Indexed Files Not
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I have followed your suggestions, and yes, the problem still persists.
Richard
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Hello Richard,
Please try the following steps to enable index on offline network driver: 1. Start Indexing Options with the command "index Options" 2. Click offline files then click Modify->show all locations 3. Click continue on the popped up window and choose all the disk partitions in the Indexed Locations window 4. Close Indexed locations window and click Advanced 5. In Advanced Options Window click Rebuild to rebuild all indexes in all locations.
After the rebuild is finished, test if problem still persistes.
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Jul 4 2008, 08:16 AM | Tags: Files Not Offline Indexed
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Hi
I am also having this problem with searching offline files that are indexed. If I try and do a search within the offline folders, it doesn't find anything (but I know there are files there that meet the search criteria). The only way pick up on the files is to change to search to 'Indexed Locations'. This is a pain, particularly when I only want to search within a subset of my offline folders (eg: within one folder) to narrow the search.
Looking forward to a solution.
Cheers David
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I have followed your suggestions, and yes, the problem still persists.
Richard
"Sean Cai [MSFT]" Hello Richard,
Please try the following steps to enable index on offline network driver: 1. Start Indexing Options with the command "index Options" 2. Click offline files then click Modify->show all locations 3. Click continue on the popped up window and choose all the disk partitions in the Indexed Locations window 4. Close Indexed locations window and click Advanced 5. In Advanced Options Window click Rebuild to rebuild all indexes in all locations.
After the rebuild is finished, test if problem still persistes.
Thanks & Regards,
Sean Cai, MCSE2000 Microsoft Online Support
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Jul 5 2008, 02:06 AM | Tags: Indexed Not Offline Files
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Hello Richard,
Do you have encrypted files/folders in the offline files? Encrypted files are not indexed by default. You can enable indexing on encrypted files by select the "Index Encrypted Files" option in Advanced Index Option.
David, I think you can check this options as well.
Have a great day!
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Jul 5 2008, 07:42 PM | Tags: Not Files Offline Indexed
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Hi Sean
My offline files are not encrypted.
Regards David
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Hello Richard,
Do you have encrypted files/folders in the offline files? Encrypted files are not indexed by default. You can enable indexing on encrypted files by select the "Index Encrypted Files" option in Advanced Index Option.
David, I think you can check this options as well.
Have a great day!
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Jul 6 2008, 02:39 AM | Tags: Indexed Offline Not Files
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Hello,
For your question, we will make some research and reply to you ASAP. Thanks for your patience.
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Jul 6 2008, 11:27 AM | Tags: Indexed Offline Files Not
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Hello,
I tested your problem, but I couldn't reproduce it. In my environment, the offline files are indexed by default and can be searched without locate to the offline files folder. Regarding my test, after set a share available offline, the content of the share is stored in the %windir%\CSC folder and it's indexed by default.
Please refer to the following steps to reset offline folders: 1. Take owner ship of the %windir%\CSC 2. Set permission for the logon account 3. Remove/move all the content in the csc folder 4. Check/set the properties of the folder: General->Adanvced->"For fast searching, allow Indexing Service to index this folder" 5. Make share offline again and test the problem
I hope the steps could help you resolve your issue.
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Jul 6 2008, 02:14 PM | Tags: Offline Not Files Indexed
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I tested this extensively in the past, but I don't remember now the exact procedures or results. However, I do remember that I seemed to find that it was working properly, but then after several days passed, I was no longer finding results from the index.
Unfortunately, this has never been a high priority for me personally, so I have not documented my experience with any detail. However, as I consider deploying Vista to our 50+ notebook users, it is my intention to use Offline Files and folder redirection to ensure that their files are well protected.
If indexing offline files is quirky, then that is going to significantly impact my training, deployment, and support.
Richard
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Hello,
I tested your problem, but I couldn't reproduce it. In my environment, the offline files are indexed by default and can be searched without locate to the offline files folder. Regarding my test, after set a share available offline, the content of the share is stored in the %windir%\CSC folder and it's indexed by default.
Please refer to the following steps to reset offline folders: 1. Take owner ship of the %windir%\CSC 2. Set permission for the logon account 3. Remove/move all the content in the csc folder 4. Check/set the properties of the folder: General->Adanvced->"For fast searching, allow Indexing Service to index this folder" 5. Make share offline again and test the problem
I hope the steps could help you resolve your issue.
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Jul 7 2008, 07:42 AM | Tags: Offline Indexed Not Files
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Hello Richard,
I didn't expect a long term test last time, so I've removed the original test environment. However, the new test environment has been established and I think I reproduced your problem.
Please try the following steps to fix your problem: 1. Start Indexing Options 2. Click Modify 3. Navigate to the %windir%\CSC folder and choose it 4. Click Ok Depends on the offline files' quantity, it may take a few minutes to index every offline files. After indexing is done, you should be able to search offline files with index.
Based on my experience in Windows XP, offline files won't be modified automatically, but I'll keep an eye on my test environment in the next a few days. If anything changes, I'll check it out and discuss with you.
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Jul 8 2008, 07:18 AM | Tags: Files Indexed Offline Not
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I have performed the steps recommended. If this does indeed resolve the problem, and if the CSC directory is in fact the stored location of Offline Files, then is this a bug, or is this by design?
As I have not been involved in any kind of reporting of bugs found in Microsoft products in the past, is there a specific procedure involved to do so?
Richard
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Hello Richard,
I didn't expect a long term test last time, so I've removed the original test environment. However, the new test environment has been established and I think I reproduced your problem.
Please try the following steps to fix your problem: 1. Start Indexing Options 2. Click Modify 3. Navigate to the %windir%\CSC folder and choose it 4. Click Ok Depends on the offline files' quantity, it may take a few minutes to index every offline files. After indexing is done, you should be able to search offline files with index.
Based on my experience in Windows XP, offline files won't be modified automatically, but I'll keep an eye on my test environment in the next a few days. If anything changes, I'll check it out and discuss with you.
Thanks & Regards,
Sean Cai, MCSE2000 Microsoft Online Support
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Jul 9 2008, 01:09 AM | Tags: Files Not Offline Indexed
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Hello Richard,
I did some further tests in my test environment. It turns out that if I change the index settings a few times in a short time period, the system will take a long time to finish all the index, un-index, re-index job. Based on my test, I changed indexing options (add/remove index on CSC folder, add/remove index on user offline folder) a few times in an hour, I couldn't get a correct search result in the next 5 hours. But, after I rebuild index (with offline files selected and CSC folder de-selected), everything is working fine.
If you need to set lots of offline files for your clients, I think it's a good idea to rebuild the index periodically. However, since Vista is still new to us, I didn't find a way to rebuild index automatically by a command line tool or by scripts.
I hope my reply could help you.
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Jul 9 2008, 11:13 PM | Tags: Offline Files Indexed Not
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Let me see if I am understanding your suggestion correctly.
1. Open Indexing Options 2. Restore Default settings (my own suggestion to get back to baseline), restart 3. Ensure that 'Offline Files' is selected (which is the case by default)
If this is your suggestion, then I am standing by my original statements which is that this does not work correctly.
Let's say that I take a single file offline. I then configure Indexing Options as described above. I then navigate to my H drive (Mapped to \\server\share\directory), and perform a search for 'file.ext', it will scan the location and display the file.
I then right-click my H drive, and choose to make available offline, and let the indexing complete. I then navigate to the H drive, search for 'file.ext' and no results are found. However, when I choose 'Advanced Search', 'Include non-indexed, hidden, and system files...', then the results are returned.
David's previous post confirms that at least 2 individuals are experiencing the same issue. I also can reproduce the scenario. I have been able to reproduce this in Vista Enterprise and Vista Ultimate.
I am looking forward to confirmation of a bug and/or a fix. As previously stated, this is not a severe problem, but it is highly annoying as one develops processes for finding files, and then has to operate differently for a specific set of files.
Richard
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Hello Richard,
I did some further tests in my test environment. It turns out that if I change the index settings a few times in a short time period, the system will take a long time to finish all the index, un-index, re-index job. Based on my test, I changed indexing options (add/remove index on CSC folder, add/remove index on user offline folder) a few times in an hour, I couldn't get a correct search result in the next 5 hours. But, after I rebuild index (with offline files selected and CSC folder de-selected), everything is working fine.
If you need to set lots of offline files for your clients, I think it's a good idea to rebuild the index periodically. However, since Vista is still new to us, I didn't find a way to rebuild index automatically by a command line tool or by scripts.
I hope my reply could help you.
Thanks & Regards,
Sean Cai, MCSE2000 Microsoft Online Support
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Jul 10 2008, 05:44 PM | Tags: Not Files Indexed Offline
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Hello Richard,
Thank you for your reply.
I do find a bug report talking about the same behavior in Vista that you have mentioned, but there's no conclusion and solution yet. However, based on my test, you can avoid this problem by rebuild the offline files' index. Though this workaround is inconvenient but at least we can control the search behavior and avoid the annoying problem.
Have a great day!
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Jul 11 2008, 08:30 AM | Tags: Files Indexed Offline Not
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I'm running Vista Ultimate x86 SP1. I have been having the same issue for several months and hoped SP1 would have corrected the problem. However the problem still persists and I've tried rebuilding the index and resetting the indexing options.
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;208548']Hello Richard,
Thank you for your reply.
I do find a bug report talking about the same behavior in Vista that you have mentioned, but there's no conclusion and solution yet. However, based on my test, you can avoid this problem by rebuild the offline files' index. Though this workaround is inconvenient but at least we can control the search behavior and avoid the annoying problem.
Have a great day!
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Sean Cai, MCSE2000 Microsoft Online Support


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