How do I change the network name in Vista from workgroup to something else? i wanna change it from WORKGROUP to MSHOME. Also is there a wizard in Vista for setting up network sharing etc like XP pro has?
I need help with enabling filesharing so I can connect to my Vista pc from anything, xbox 360, xbox 1so I can stream movies and music and other pcs not running vista. I need to be able to access any folder and file. So i should be able to access c:\ and all the files and folders and e:\ and g:\ which are backup drives and so on.

"AMD"

Got the network group changed in vista now, thanks to Dave. still looking for help in the filesharing. thanks to all.

On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 18:08:50 -0700, "AMD" wrote:

File Sharing in Windows Vista is like in Windows XP, except for 2 issues (improvements). # Vista has Password Protected Sharing (PPS), which is essentially the same as Advanced File Sharing (AFS) under Windows XP Pro. # There is no equivalent to XP Home; you can enable PPS, or disable it, at will. <nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/12/windows-xp-and-vista-on-lan-together.html> nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/12/windows-xp-and-vista-on-lan-together.html
If you want Guest only file sharing, Disable PPS. Then Enable Guest on all computers, for network access. <nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Help> nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Help
Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org.

"Chuck"

Thanks Chuck. I'm trying to connect to the vista pc from my xbox1 so I can stream music and video. The xbox is browsing the lan ok and it sees both my xphome pc and vista pc on MSHOME as the group name. It works fine connecting to and browsing/streaming media from the xphome pc. if i try to connect to the vista pc nothing at all happens. it sees the vista pc, but nothing happens at all when i click on it to go in to my vista pc.
the vista pc filesharing is on and i have shared the hard drives on the vista pc too. i right click and click sharing. i enable sharing in there on each drive and even have tried folders. nothing happens though. i even gave full permissions to everyone and added my own user account in there with full permission too. in networking and sharing control panel in vista i have password needed enabled. my Network and sharing control panel is as follows.
1: network discovery on 2: file sharing on 3: public folder sharing on (password required) 4: printer sharing off. don't care. no printers connected. 5: password protected sharing on 6: media sharing on
to share folders and drives this is how i do it.
right click on E drive. it's a 160gb drive. internal. chose sharing from the right click menu click on advanced sharing share this folder is checked as enabled click permissions click allow for full control. Everyone is in the Group or user names above. click the add button click advance click find now click my own user account Joe click ok click ok click the allow button for full control click apply then ok in advanced sharing window local disk e properties is saying e:\ shared
i can't connect to this. in the xp pc it's set the same for that pc yet i can connect fine to it.

"Chuck"

it's private. not running any virus or firewall cept windows firewall. don't need to enable netbt as it isn't on the xbox. per yer suggestion i think. i enabled net bios tho on tcp v4 in wins.
nothing works so far still. xbox sees the vista, but won't go anywhere. connecting to xp home pc it's fine.

On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 19:49:41 -0700, "AMD" wrote:

You didn't mention the Network Location Type. <microsoft.com/technet/network/evaluate/vista_fp.mspx#EED> microsoft.com/technet/network/evaluate/vista_fp.mspx#EED
Also, Enable NetBT on all computers. <nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html> nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html
Make sure that there are no third party personal firewalls. What antivirus / antitrojan products do you have? <nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html> nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html
And you listed,in detail, what shares are setup with permissions to what accounts (local accounts). That's the NTFS permissioning. Separate from NTFS Permissions is activation of the accounts, for network access. <nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Help> nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Help
Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org.

On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 19:49:41 -0700, "AMD" wrote:

You didn't mention the Network Location Type. <microsoft.com/technet/network/evaluate/vista_fp.mspx#EED> microsoft.com/technet/network/evaluate/vista_fp.mspx#EED
Also, Enable NetBT on all computers. <nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html> nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html
And check name resolution. <nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/address-resolution-on-lan.html> nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/address-resolution-on-lan.html
Make sure that there are no third party personal firewalls. What antivirus / antitrojan products do you have? <nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html> nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html
And you listed,in detail, what shares are setup with permissions to what accounts (local accounts). That's the NTFS permissioning. Separate from NTFS Permissions is activation of the accounts, for network access. <nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Help> nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Help
Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org.

"Chuck"

Are you mentioning the shift key because I don't have capital letters maybe in my sentances? haha.
Vista can connect fine to pc running xp. Vista can connect fine to xbox using http and ftp. Xp pc can connect fine to Vista pc. xbox can't connect to vista pc. it sees it, but won't actually get past seeing it. xbox will connect fine to xp pc. xp pc connect fine to xbox. the only issue is xbox to vista.

On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 20:55:47 -0700, "AMD" wrote:

OK, lets start enumerating the network.
You have 3 computers. a) Vista. b) Xbox. c) XP HOme.
1) Can A connect to B? 2) Can A connect to C? 3) Can B connect to A? 4) Can B connect to C? 5) Can C connect to A? 6) Can C connect to B?
If "No" is appropriate, please elaborate.
And hoping that you have a standard 102 key keyboard, see if you can spot the long key just above "Ctrl". The "Shift" key. Does it work on your keyboard?
Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org.

"Chuck"

Chuck, thanks. Well, there's nothing to set on the xbox. Also I have disabled and enabled NetBios in vista and it makes no difference. Xp to Vista works fine though no matter what. xbox to XP works fine too. Just no xp to vista for me.
Now, if I enable media sharing on Vista then xbox can connect to that folder. The folders that are in the media sharing setup/monitoring. the way you connect to the media sharing from xbox is through upnp servers inside the xbox. Meaning in the xbox media center there is an option called UPnP Media Servers (Auto Discover). That is the only way to connect to the media sharing on Vista. The major problem here is that the music is not listed correctly so they are not played in order.
Browsing the lan normally though through the MSHOME workgroup doesn't connect past the I see Vista screen.

On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 22:23:01 -0700, "AMD" wrote:

OK, we have a winner. Maybe.
Above, you say

Read about IP based networking. <nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html> nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html
And make the NetBT setting (Enabled / Disabled) consistent.
And yes, your Shift key seems to be flaky. This is a technical help forum, and many terms are much easier to see when you capitalise. NetBT for instance is easier to see than netbt.
Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org.

"Chuck"

Chuck, thanks for everything. The last post though doesn't seem to help me though. I don't see how come the xbox is fine with xp, but not Vista. That blows my mind. And the fact that via media sharing the xbox can only using that way connect to Vista in the media sharing folders. Yet this is pointless being the order is not normal.

On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 00:02:03 -0700, "AMD" wrote:

OK, your problem in general is with Server Message Blocks (SMBs). SMBs are essential for file sharing, and for browsing. In small LANs they are also used for name resolution.
SMBs are classically transported over NetBT (NetBT Enabled), but with Windows 2000 + they can be transported directly hosted over IP (NetBT Disabled). They can also be transported over NetBEUI, IPX/SPX, or whatever proprietary layer is provided by Network Magic (there's a little pimp in this forum flogging NM). <nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/10/network-language-that-your-computer.html> nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/10/network-language-that-your-computer.html
The point here is that with a LAN, all computers need to transport SMBs identically. If you run "browstat status" and look at the protocol binding list, you'll see what's up. <nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/browstat-utility-from-microsoft.html> nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/browstat-utility-from-microsoft.html
And if you are transporting SMBs over IP (Direct or NetBT), you have to make sure that all personal firewalls permit this. <nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html> nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html
Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org.

On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 08:56:17 -0700, "AMD" wrote:

The issue is SMBs which aren't being transported consistently. Run "browstat status" on all 3 computers, and let's compare. <nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/browstat-utility-from-microsoft.html> nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/browstat-utility-from-microsoft.html
When you said

Work on the problem. I'll work with you, as long as you do.
Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org.

"Chuck"

Thanks Chuck. Umm, the xbox can't be changed or anything. There's no settings for networking like there would be on a pc. I will look in the xbox network area and see if there is anything I can do though. It is different then a pc though since it's not running windows.
I typed in browsat status in the dos command window, but it's not a recognised command. Did I do that wrong?

"Chuck"

I should have looked before I posted, sorry. I got the browstat tool.
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6000] Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
C:\Users\Joe>browstat status
Status for domain MSHOME on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{5B18E757-F737-4E22-BD 84-EE635A904F76} Browsing is active on domain. Master browser name is: JOE-DELL Could not connect to registry, error = 53 Unable to determine build of br owser master: 53 \\\\JOE-DELL . Version:05.01 Flags: 51203 NT POTENTIAL MASTER 1 backup servers retrieved from master JOE-DELL \\JOE-DELL There are 2 servers in domain MSHOME on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{5B18E 757-F737-4E22-BD84-EE635A904F76} There are 1 domains in domain MSHOME on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{5B18E 757-F737-4E22-BD84-EE635A904F76}

On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 04:22:44 -0700, "AMD" wrote:

It's browstat. Did you download it, and where did you put the downloaded program? <nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/browstat-utility-from-microsoft.html> nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/browstat-utility-from-microsoft.html
Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org.

On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 04:27:16 -0700, "AMD" wrote:

OK, you know how to run it now, so run from the other computer too. And a pair of "ipconfig /all" too please.
Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org.

"Chuck"