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Jan 31 2008, 09:37 PM | Tags: Give Now Anyway For
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After deciding to take the plunge and upgrade to Vista I have to say it has been less than a pleasant experience. After hearing all the horror stories about upgrading, I figured that most were newbies to upgrades and didn't know what they were doing. I've been fiddling with Windows and upgrades since the x286 release so I shouldn't have any problems. I've also built almost all of my PCs as well so I'm very familiar with both the hardware and software aspects. Before I started the upgrade I ran the advisor, several times actually, and made the necessary hardware changes. I checked to make sure that updates were available for all my programs and drivers and for the few that weren't I would go ahead and buy the new versions. I'm now ready! From the time that I put the DVD in all seemed to go smoothly, other than entering in a small amount of info it was an uneventful install with no error messages. It took maybe 20 minutes! The system rebooted and I was looking at the Vista desktop. Yeah! Looking at all the new stuff I started poking around and when I tried to move a window the screen went blank and then returned with an error something to the effect of "display driver stopped responding and then was restored". I must have forgotten to update the nVidia driver so I do that. After restart it does again and again. Maybe the Certified for Vista video card is bad so I go buy a new PCIe ATI card. EXACT SAME PROBLEM! I could use the computer for about 10-30 minutes before it starts but once it does it just keeps happening. I was willing to tolerate this until a patch was created until this morning. For whatever reason the security features have gone bezerk! I can no longer go to microsofts web site, it tells me there is a problem with my internet provider, but I have no problem getting to Best Buy or ATI's and many others. I understand that security was a big selling point but OMG! At least make it easy for ME to manage, I can't figure out how to turn stuff off and when I do it tells me I can't do that and won't permit me to do certain things. So at this point I give up. I have removed Vista and gone back to XP Pro. I will keep the box on the shelf collecting dust or maybe use it for a big paperweight until some of the "issues" can get worked out. I will say I did like the speed of the install, the look of Aero and the flip 3D was neat but not worth the hassle of everything else. For those of you who have upgraded successfully, kudos to you. Unfortunately I have neither the time nor the inclination to continue with this when XP works just fine. I will miss flip though. :)
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Feb 1 2008, 07:32 AM | Tags: Now For Give Anyway
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Can I just say that since I went back to Windows XP Pro over the weekend that I have been very, very, very happy ? Well I just said it. Maybe I will try again someday, but my system is much, much happier with XP Pro on it. And my system is not old or not capable of running Vista. I am running an Intel Core Duo with 4 GB of ram and a 256 mb graphics card. XP Pro flies on this while Vista Premium was noticeably slow.
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Feb 1 2008, 04:55 PM | Tags: For Now Anyway Give
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Hi Poormo: I'm sorry to hear you had so many problems. I have a pc with XP and one with Vista and I don't know why, but I find myself using the Vista pc almost exclusively now even though it isn't all that big an upgrade over XP. Perhaps if you posted your m-board model # & it's current bios version, your cpu model, your graphics card model & driver version, your ram memory type & size, hard drive info & if in RAID and list the software you are using someone could help you narrow down the problem you are having with Vista. Once you get it running right I think you would eventually really like it. I've come to believe that Vista is actually very sound and the cause of virtually all the problems can be traced to driver or software incompatibility. There aren't many problems that the helpful volunteers in here can't solve with enough info.
xiowan...........in tucson
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After deciding to take the plunge and upgrade to Vista I have to say it has been less than a pleasant experience. After hearing all the horror stories about upgrading, I figured that most were newbies to upgrades and didn't know what they were doing. I've been fiddling with Windows and upgrades since the x286 release so I shouldn't have any problems. I've also built almost all of my PCs as well so I'm very familiar with both the hardware and software aspects. Before I started the upgrade I ran the advisor, several times actually, and made the necessary hardware changes. I checked to make sure that updates were available for all my programs and drivers and for the few that weren't I would go ahead and buy the new versions. I'm now ready! From the time that I put the DVD in all seemed to go smoothly, other than entering in a small amount of info it was an uneventful install with no error messages. It took maybe 20 minutes! The system rebooted and I was looking at the Vista desktop. Yeah! Looking at all the new stuff I started poking around and when I tried to move a window the screen went blank and then returned with an error something to the effect of "display driver stopped responding and then was restored". I must have forgotten to update the nVidia driver so I do that. After restart it does again and again. Maybe the Certified for Vista video card is bad so I go buy a new PCIe ATI card. EXACT SAME PROBLEM! I could use the computer for about 10-30 minutes before it starts but once it does it just keeps happening. I was willing to tolerate this until a patch was created until this morning. For whatever reason the security features have gone bezerk! I can no longer go to microsofts web site, it tells me there is a problem with my internet provider, but I have no problem getting to Best Buy or ATI's and many others. I understand that security was a big selling point but OMG! At least make it easy for ME to manage, I can't figure out how to turn stuff off and when I do it tells me I can't do that and won't permit me to do certain things. So at this point I give up. I have removed Vista and gone back to XP Pro. I will keep the box on the shelf collecting dust or maybe use it for a big paperweight until some of the "issues" can get worked out. I will say I did like the speed of the install, the look of Aero and the flip 3D was neat but not worth the hassle of everything else. For those of you who have upgraded successfully, kudos to you. Unfortunately I have neither the time nor the inclination to continue with this when XP works just fine. I will miss flip though. :)

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Feb 2 2008, 09:09 AM | Tags: For Now Give Anyway
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Must be a slow Core Duo
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Can I just say that since I went back to Windows XP Pro over the weekend that I have been very, very, very happy ? Well I just said it. Maybe I will try again someday, but my system is much, much happier with XP Pro on it. And my system is not old or not capable of running Vista. I am running an Intel Core Duo with 4 GB of ram and a 256 mb graphics card. XP Pro flies on this while Vista Premium was noticeably slow.
Bob

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Feb 2 2008, 06:07 PM | Tags: Now For Give Anyway
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"John Barnes"
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Must be a slow Core Duo

Must be John. NOT.
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Feb 3 2008, 09:05 AM | Tags: Now Give For Anyway
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I am sorry to hear that you are having so many issues. I too had many issues just trying to get the damn thing installed, and I finally used the workaround to do a clean install with my upgrade. The install went smoothly, and I couldn't be more pleased with the results! I haven't noticed a slowdown in performance, and I am not running a blazing fast machine by no means (Pentium D 2.8 Ghz, 2 GB RAM, Radeon x600 (128MB onboard), and 300GB of storage space among 3 HDD's (1 internal, 2 external). Yeah, some of my software and games won't run anymore (even in compatibility mode), but I should've figured that beforehand. I hope you do give it a try in the future when the support becomes a little more available. I'm glad I didn't give up on it! I sure was ready to!
Todd
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After deciding to take the plunge and upgrade to Vista I have to say it has been less than a pleasant experience. After hearing all the horror stories about upgrading, I figured that most were newbies to upgrades and didn't know what they were doing. I've been fiddling with Windows and upgrades since the x286 release so I shouldn't have any problems. I've also built almost all of my PCs as well so I'm very familiar with both the hardware and software aspects. Before I started the upgrade I ran the advisor, several times actually, and made the necessary hardware changes. I checked to make sure that updates were available for all my programs and drivers and for the few that weren't I would go ahead and buy the new versions. I'm now ready! From the time that I put the DVD in all seemed to go smoothly, other than entering in a small amount of info it was an uneventful install with no error messages. It took maybe 20 minutes! The system rebooted and I was looking at the Vista desktop. Yeah! Looking at all the new stuff I started poking around and when I tried to move a window the screen went blank and then returned with an error something to the effect of "display driver stopped responding and then was restored". I must have forgotten to update the nVidia driver so I do that. After restart it does again and again. Maybe the Certified for Vista video card is bad so I go buy a new PCIe ATI card. EXACT SAME PROBLEM! I could use the computer for about 10-30 minutes before it starts but once it does it just keeps happening. I was willing to tolerate this until a patch was created until this morning. For whatever reason the security features have gone bezerk! I can no longer go to microsofts web site, it tells me there is a problem with my internet provider, but I have no problem getting to Best Buy or ATI's and many others. I understand that security was a big selling point but OMG! At least make it easy for ME to manage, I can't figure out how to turn stuff off and when I do it tells me I can't do that and won't permit me to do certain things. So at this point I give up. I have removed Vista and gone back to XP Pro. I will keep the box on the shelf collecting dust or maybe use it for a big paperweight until some of the "issues" can get worked out. I will say I did like the speed of the install, the look of Aero and the flip 3D was neat but not worth the hassle of everything else. For those of you who have upgraded successfully, kudos to you. Unfortunately I have neither the time nor the inclination to continue with this when XP works just fine. I will miss flip though. :)

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Feb 4 2008, 08:15 AM | Tags: For Give Now Anyway
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Maybe the t2700 would be borderline, but Vista requires around a clock speed of around 2500k to be useful for multi tasking .
"Bob"
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"John Barnes" Must be a slow Core Duo
Must be John. NOT.
Bob

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Feb 4 2008, 02:27 PM | Tags: For Give Now Anyway
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"John Barnes"
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Maybe the t2700 would be borderline, but Vista requires around a clock speed of around 2500k to be useful for multi tasking .
"Bob"
"John Barnes" Must be a slow Core Duo
Must be John. NOT.
Bob
If Vista seems slow, then try going to power settings and set it to high

performance.
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Feb 5 2008, 02:09 AM | Tags: Now For Anyway Give
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Not slow since I upgraded from a 3500+ to a 5200+. Just know the CPU speed is more important than more memory after you hit 2 gig. With my use of the computer I don't want the high performance settings, thank you just the same. Good for gaming, sucks for business.

"Boomer"
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"John Barnes" Maybe the t2700 would be borderline, but Vista requires around a clock speed of around 2500k to be useful for multi tasking .
"Bob"
"John Barnes" Must be a slow Core Duo
Must be John. NOT.
Bob
If Vista seems slow, then try going to power settings and set it to high performance.

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Feb 5 2008, 08:13 PM | Tags: Anyway For Give Now
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So true. XP is fine. this is crap
"Poormo" wrote:

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After deciding to take the plunge and upgrade to Vista I have to say it has been less than a pleasant experience. After hearing all the horror stories about upgrading, I figured that most were newbies to upgrades and didn't know what they were doing. I've been fiddling with Windows and upgrades since the x286 release so I shouldn't have any problems. I've also built almost all of my PCs as well so I'm very familiar with both the hardware and software aspects. Before I started the upgrade I ran the advisor, several times actually, and made the necessary hardware changes. I checked to make sure that updates were available for all my programs and drivers and for the few that weren't I would go ahead and buy the new versions. I'm now ready! From the time that I put the DVD in all seemed to go smoothly, other than entering in a small amount of info it was an uneventful install with no error messages. It took maybe 20 minutes! The system rebooted and I was looking at the Vista desktop. Yeah! Looking at all the new stuff I started poking around and when I tried to move a window the screen went blank and then returned with an error something to the effect of "display driver stopped responding and then was restored". I must have forgotten to update the nVidia driver so I do that. After restart it does again and again. Maybe the Certified for Vista video card is bad so I go buy a new PCIe ATI card. EXACT SAME PROBLEM! I could use the computer for about 10-30 minutes before it starts but once it does it just keeps happening. I was willing to tolerate this until a patch was created until this morning. For whatever reason the security features have gone bezerk! I can no longer go to microsofts web site, it tells me there is a problem with my internet provider, but I have no problem getting to Best Buy or ATI's and many others. I understand that security was a big selling point but OMG! At least make it easy for ME to manage, I can't figure out how to turn stuff off and when I do it tells me I can't do that and won't permit me to do certain things. So at this point I give up. I have removed Vista and gone back to XP Pro. I will keep the box on the shelf collecting dust or maybe use it for a big paperweight until some of the "issues" can get worked out. I will say I did like the speed of the install, the look of Aero and the flip 3D was neat but not worth the hassle of everything else. For those of you who have upgraded successfully, kudos to you. Unfortunately I have neither the time nor the inclination to continue with this when XP works just fine. I will miss flip though. :)

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Feb 5 2008, 11:30 PM | Tags: Anyway For Now Give
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Although our backgrounds appear to be about the same, our Vista Experience differs. I'm running Vista Ultimate x86 on a 2 year old Dell 9300 (1.73 GHz, single core, 256MB nVidia Go 6800, 2GB of RAM). I'm also running Vista Ultimate 64 on a less than 1 year old Shuttle SN25P (2.4GHz X2 Opteron, 512MB ATI X1900XTX, 2GB of RAM). Both systems run great. He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help. - A. Lincoln

"Poormo"
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After deciding to take the plunge and upgrade to Vista I have to say it has been less than a pleasant experience. After hearing all the horror stories about upgrading, I figured that most were newbies to upgrades and didn't know what they were doing. I've been fiddling with Windows and upgrades since the x286 release so I shouldn't have any problems. I've also built almost all of my PCs as well so I'm very familiar with both the hardware and software aspects. Before I started the upgrade I ran the advisor, several times actually, and made the necessary hardware changes. I checked to make sure that updates were available for all my programs and drivers and for the few that weren't I would go ahead and buy the new versions. I'm now ready! From the time that I put the DVD in all seemed to go smoothly, other than entering in a small amount of info it was an uneventful install with no error messages. It took maybe 20 minutes! The system rebooted and I was looking at the Vista desktop. Yeah! Looking at all the new stuff I started poking around and when I tried to move a window the screen went blank and then returned with an error something to the effect of "display driver stopped responding and then was restored". I must have forgotten to update the nVidia driver so I do that. After restart it does again and again. Maybe the Certified for Vista video card is bad so I go buy a new PCIe ATI card. EXACT SAME PROBLEM! I could use the computer for about 10-30 minutes before it starts but once it does it just keeps happening. I was willing to tolerate this until a patch was created until this morning. For whatever reason the security features have gone bezerk! I can no longer go to microsofts web site, it tells me there is a problem with my internet provider, but I have no problem getting to Best Buy or ATI's and many others. I understand that security was a big selling point but OMG! At least make it easy for ME to manage, I can't figure out how to turn stuff off and when I do it tells me I can't do that and won't permit me to do certain things. So at this point I give up. I have removed Vista and gone back to XP Pro. I will keep the box on the shelf collecting dust or maybe use it for a big paperweight until some of the "issues" can get worked out. I will say I did like the speed of the install, the look of Aero and the flip 3D was neat but not worth the hassle of everything else. For those of you who have upgraded successfully, kudos to you. Unfortunately I have neither the time nor the inclination to continue with this when XP works just fine. I will miss flip though. :)

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Feb 6 2008, 03:15 PM | Tags: Anyway For Give Now
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i need to no what to go to grt sound back pls help cat
"xiowan" wrote:

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Hi Poormo: I'm sorry to hear you had so many problems. I have a pc with XP and one with Vista and I don't know why, but I find myself using the Vista pc almost exclusively now even though it isn't all that big an upgrade over XP. Perhaps if you posted your m-board model # & it's current bios version, your cpu model, your graphics card model & driver version, your ram memory type & size, hard drive info & if in RAID and list the software you are using someone could help you narrow down the problem you are having with Vista. Once you get it running right I think you would eventually really like it. I've come to believe that Vista is actually very sound and the cause of virtually all the problems can be traced to driver or software incompatibility. There aren't many problems that the helpful volunteers in here can't solve with enough info.
xiowan...........in tucson
"Poormo" wrote:
After deciding to take the plunge and upgrade to Vista I have to say it has been less than a pleasant experience. After hearing all the horror stories about upgrading, I figured that most were newbies to upgrades and didn't know what they were doing. I've been fiddling with Windows and upgrades since the x286 release so I shouldn't have any problems. I've also built almost all of my PCs as well so I'm very familiar with both the hardware and software aspects. Before I started the upgrade I ran the advisor, several times actually, and made the necessary hardware changes. I checked to make sure that updates were available for all my programs and drivers and for the few that weren't I would go ahead and buy the new versions. I'm now ready! From the time that I put the DVD in all seemed to go smoothly, other than entering in a small amount of info it was an uneventful install with no error messages. It took maybe 20 minutes! The system rebooted and I was looking at the Vista desktop. Yeah! Looking at all the new stuff I started poking around and when I tried to move a window the screen went blank and then returned with an error something to the effect of "display driver stopped responding and then was restored". I must have forgotten to update the nVidia driver so I do that. After restart it does again and again. Maybe the Certified for Vista video card is bad so I go buy a new PCIe ATI card. EXACT SAME PROBLEM! I could use the computer for about 10-30 minutes before it starts but once it does it just keeps happening. I was willing to tolerate this until a patch was created until this morning. For whatever reason the security features have gone bezerk! I can no longer go to microsofts web site, it tells me there is a problem with my internet provider, but I have no problem getting to Best Buy or ATI's and many others. I understand that security was a big selling point but OMG! At least make it easy for ME to manage, I can't figure out how to turn stuff off and when I do it tells me I can't do that and won't permit me to do certain things. So at this point I give up. I have removed Vista and gone back to XP Pro. I will keep the box on the shelf collecting dust or maybe use it for a big paperweight until some of the "issues" can get worked out. I will say I did like the speed of the install, the look of Aero and the flip 3D was neat but not worth the hassle of everything else. For those of you who have upgraded successfully, kudos to you. Unfortunately I have neither the time nor the inclination to continue with this when XP works just fine. I will miss flip though. :)

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