Hello all,
Ubuntu 7.04, the ultimate Linux operating is now available for download. Browse to: futuredesktop.org
Sincerely Moma :-)

"none"

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My Intel 3945 ABG wireless still doesn't work after all that hype they generated about unrestricted drivers. After entering the pass phrase it tries for some time and brings up the window again. All in all, a royal waste of time.
"none"

Your post is completely off topic for this newsgroup.. but you know this already, eh..
"none"

Mike Hall MS MVP Windows Shell/User msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/

Mike Hall MVP wrote:

Offering a viable alternative to Vista is not off topic and YOU are not the moderator of this group.
Alias

"Alias"

On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 11:41:04 +0200, none wrote:

I found Ubuntu to be one of the worst distro's out there, almost like going from Win XP or Vist back to Win 95.
Leythos Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. spam999free rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)

On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 13:07:30 +0200, Alias wrote:

None of the people here have asked for a NON-MS Alternative.
Leythos Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. spam999free rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)

Why is that? "Leythos"

Leythos wrote:

So? Not only is Ubuntu a viable alternative to the expensive, intrusive "anti piracy" and DRM riddled Vista, it's a better, cheaper and more secure alternative.
The fact that that fact gets the Microsoft Boys' knickers in a twist is just life and life only.
Alias

Leythos wrote:

I find it to be much more user friendly than Vista or XP and, what's more, can be installed on computers that don't cost a kidney to buy.
Alias

"Mike Hall MVP"

That's true, but I prefer it in a separate thread, where people so interested can read it, rather than butting into every request for information. Might be better if the topic said "Ubuntu 7.04, a Vista alternative, has been released", though. Otherwise, people might think it's a Vista game. ;-)
Regards,
Rick Raisley

On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 20:02:49 +0800, mlai wrote:

Because it didn't support the hardware on 3 laptops (no WPA-PSK by default) and because the system was slow.
I find that Fedora Core 5 is better all around, provides MORE features, more ability to do work, and more stable than Ubuntu, by far.
Leythos Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. spam999free rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)

On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 14:03:46 +0200, Alias wrote:

It's not even close to a "Viable Alternative" - it's stripped, limited, contains limited driver/hardware support, and it's slow. Fedora Core 5 would be a better comparison with Vista or XP.

No, I think that posting about a OS that no one asked about is what gets people a twist. If people were asking about alternative OS's in a thread then it might be a valid discussion, but, Ubuntu is only viable as a replacement for Win98, and certainly not for XP or Vista.
Leythos Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. spam999free rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)

Leythos wrote:

Okay, I will <g>. Seriously, although I have nothing against the "MS box", it is good to know that there are people thinking outside the "MS box". Creativity and choice are a good thing.
Ann W.

"Rick Raisley" <heavymetal-A-T-bellsouth-D-O-T-net>

These Linux cult followers are just like Jehova's Witnesses banging on the front door at 9am on a Sunday morning when one has just got home a couple of hours earlier having pulled in a club.
The Linux whine.... "Spare change guv?"

"Leythos"

Fedora is definitely more stable.
Paul Smith, Yeovil, UK. Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User. windowsresource.net/
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Leythos wrote:

I don't find it to be "slow". I find XP to be much slower on this old AMD Athlon 800 with 256 PC-100 RAM than Ubuntu. It's not "stripped or limited". In fact, it comes with hundreds of programs, some of which aren't available for Windows. I have no problem with the hardware except the printer and that's because I haven't had the time to configure it with Cups.

You've downloaded and installed 7.04, aka, Feisty Fawn?
I don't agree with your opinion. I find Ubuntu 6.06, which I am running now, to be better than XP and Vista due to the lack of the intrusive crap and bloatware that comes with those two.
Alias

On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 15:05:40 +0200, Alias wrote:

The last version I tried was 7.something, not the latest, and I don't have a issue with licensing or the features that come with Vista or XP.
What I have an issue with is that most of the programs that people use to interact with business don't run on Linux and Ubuntu is one of the lesser viable distros - Fedora makes a much more viable platform than Ubuntu does.
Leythos Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. spam999free rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)

On Apr 24, 7:07 am, Alias wrote:

It is off topic and it is spam. Go back to the linux forum. People here are trying to get help with Vista. If they wanted Linux, they would come to the Linux Newsgroup.

"radink"

You can't blame it for not wanting to hang out with like-minded creatures.

On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 06:17:19 -0700, radink wrote:

And they would get flamed in those group like people that have problems with Vista running slow on multiple computers with more than enough power do here.
Leythos Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. spam999free rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)

Leythos;2794798 Wrote:

Absolutely, to suggest Ubuntu (or any Linux for that matter) is a viable alternative to XP or Vista is simply absurd. You could use Ubuntu for surfing the net and email but that would be about it. The lack of applications alone would rule it out for most people, particularly people who have to work with the computer for a living. As for the hardware support, well, anyone who has that amount of free time on their hands is clearly unemployed. I prefer to pay for a decent system that works without any messing about. Which is why I run Vista – I have been using it for work every day, 12 hours a day since end of Jan when it came out – haven’t had a single problem with it yet?
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radink wrote:

Yawn. New to Usenet?
Alias

Leythos wrote:

You like being accused of being a thief until you prove otherwise?

We obviously disagree. I can run my business just fine with Ubuntu. To which programs are you referring that "Don't run on Ubuntu" and have any significant impact on running a business?
Alias

SeriousShave wrote:

False.

For example?

With the exception of the printer, all my hardware was recognized just fine. On the SAME computer, I had to go look for ATI drivers, download ..Net, and upgrade the NIC drivers for Windows XP to work. Ubuntu took me two hours to install and be ready to use and Windows about five hours.
I prefer to pay for a decent

You're lucky but you had to pay a kidney for the hardware and Vista which makes you foolishly "lucky".
Alias

I think Ubuntu is a complete waste of time! Vista is head and shoulders above this so called "better" system... i think not!
Vista all the way you Linux boys/girls!
Alias wrote:

The other day, my Uncle who was doing 5 to 15 in a Georgia prison was released. He is moving to a half-way house for the next 6 months to get back on his feet. I told him that he needs to get a skill. I suggested learning Vista or Ubuntu on the computer the Department of Prisons will be setting up for him. He then ran screaming from the room.
I wonder what happened?
"none"

Tom Scott wrote:

Care to prove your assertions or is this just a subjective opinion?

Vista is expensive and requires forking out money for hardware. It's foolish to use it when there are free alternatives that require no additional hardware.
Alias

Bill Yanaire MS OS XP BS BFD wrote:

He's not really your Uncle? He's done with prison romance? You're too ugly? Time for you to fess up! Frank

In article , Alias says...

What 's the problem? I have Ubuntu ànd Vista. They both are nice. Ant both have little problems.
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"Alias"

Just WHY are you posting on a Vista forum?? Maybe it is because misery is looking for company.

Mellowed wrote:

Frank

Mellowed wrote:

To inform people who are disgusted with WPA/WGA/DRM, etc. that there is a free user-friendly alternative that's even better and doesn't require spending a lot of money on an intrusive OS and new hardware.
If you have a problem with my posts, use self control and don't read them. If you don't have self control, please learn how to use the filters in you newsreader and filter me out.
Alias

Frank wrote:

You forgot to snort and belch.
Alias

"Alias"

You appear to have the inability to find a NG who is interested in Ubuntu. We all know about Ubuntu and clearly find it a waste of time. You are in the same catagory of SPAM mail. You could be productive if you would apply your energies to helping those with Ubuntu solve their problems.