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Apr 26 2008, 09:31 PM | Tags: Error Etc Twist Unknown
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Ok got that on my outbox folder and using the removal of the message store files I got back everything and cleared the outbox. all emails were in recovered area so i moved them to the correct folders.
next morning recovery occurred again and I had to move them again. During today all boots show winmail.exe chewing cpu for 5 minutes after boot . Tonight I checked and all 1 folder's emails are the same email contents different subjects but same internal message. I tried deleting 1 and all now show "message could not be displayed"
Ran wmutil it failed to run, highlighting message set as unread change to read still same error.
Ok I did export my emails recently so they are safe but when will MS get off their butts and fix this Posts here indicate this a beta issue 8 mths ago. All posters here are trying to help, but I suspect they are limited by MS's inaction.
No new thoughts? Thanks for any thoughts tony
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Apr 27 2008, 07:59 AM | Tags: Error Twist Etc Unknown
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Addendum I used the suggestion of right clicking on the folder with the blocked emails and deleted the whole folder. Then I deleted the folder from the deleted folder.
So as I had an exported email folder I tried importing but WM caould not find files of the correct type. Got over this by dragging all eml files into WM folder when I reopened WM. Not neat way, funny I could not import but will reseaech that.
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Ok got that on my outbox folder and using the removal of the message store files I got back everything and cleared the outbox. all emails were in recovered area so i moved them to the correct folders.
next morning recovery occurred again and I had to move them again. During today all boots show winmail.exe chewing cpu for 5 minutes after boot . Tonight I checked and all 1 folder's emails are the same email contents different subjects but same internal message. I tried deleting 1 and all now show "message could not be displayed"
Ran wmutil it failed to run, highlighting message set as unread change to read still same error.
Ok I did export my emails recently so they are safe but when will MS get off their butts and fix this Posts here indicate this a beta issue 8 mths ago. All posters here are trying to help, but I suspect they are limited by MS's inaction.
No new thoughts? Thanks for any thoughts tony

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Apr 28 2008, 03:02 AM | Tags: Twist Etc Error Unknown
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"Peacekeeper"
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Ok got that on my outbox folder and using the removal of the message store files I got back everything and cleared the outbox. all emails were in recovered area so i moved them to the correct folders.
next morning recovery occurred again and I had to move them again. During today all boots show winmail.exe chewing cpu for 5 minutes after boot . Tonight I checked and all 1 folder's emails are the same email contents different subjects but same internal message. I tried deleting 1 and all now show "message could not be displayed"
Ran wmutil it failed to run, highlighting message set as unread change to read still same error.
Ok I did export my emails recently so they are safe but when will MS get off their butts and fix this Posts here indicate this a beta issue 8 mths ago. All posters here are trying to help, but I suspect they are limited by MS's inaction.
No new thoughts? Thanks for any thoughts tony

What anti-virus are you using?
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Apr 28 2008, 04:11 PM | Tags: Etc Twist Error Unknown
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Mcafee.... I am mod for them so passed this error onto them for comment.
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"Peacekeeper" Ok got that on my outbox folder and using the removal of the message store files I got back everything and cleared the outbox. all emails were in recovered area so i moved them to the correct folders.
next morning recovery occurred again and I had to move them again. During today all boots show winmail.exe chewing cpu for 5 minutes after boot . Tonight I checked and all 1 folder's emails are the same email contents different subjects but same internal message. I tried deleting 1 and all now show "message could not be displayed"
Ran wmutil it failed to run, highlighting message set as unread change to read still same error.
Ok I did export my emails recently so they are safe but when will MS get off their butts and fix this Posts here indicate this a beta issue 8 mths ago. All posters here are trying to help, but I suspect they are limited by MS's inaction.
No new thoughts? Thanks for any thoughts tony
What anti-virus are you using?
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM Do not send mail.

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fifi1234
Apr 28 2008, 08:36 PM | Tags: Unknown Error Etc Twist
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"Peacekeeper"
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Mcafee.... I am mod for them so passed this error onto them for comment.


Either get rid of McAfee or seitch to Thunderbird, although McAfee might kill that, too.
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Apr 29 2008, 03:54 AM | Tags: Unknown Error Etc Twist
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On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:18:44 -0500, "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote:

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Either get rid of McAfee

Are you suggesting that McAfee is the cause of this bug?
I don't think so, I don't have any AV running, and I've now got it in 2 mail folders.
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Apr 29 2008, 01:22 PM | Tags: Etc Twist Unknown Error
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I don't think so, I don't have any AV running, and I've now got it in 2 mail folders.
Nigel M

Seems since it started each boot recovers mail or newsgroups. Today it recovered newsgroups I unsubscribed to several boots back. In fact, I had 3 recovered copies of the newsgroup 1 for each boot since the last time I cleaned up the recovered folder.
We all hear of workarounds we do that as well in the mcafee forum but if something is broken we stir the powers that be for a fix. I assume noone here can stir the pot for the suffering masses.
Any way to disable the recovery mechanism? tony
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Apr 29 2008, 03:11 PM | Tags: Unknown Error Twist Etc
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I think the reason this problem is so difficult to diagnose is because there is more than one failure mechanism. Those who have anti-virus scanning their email seem to be more prone to the problem, but it's not the only cause. Some firewall, anti-spam, anti-malware, and security 'suite' programs also scan emails.
Gary VanderMolen
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On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:18:44 -0500, "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" franksaunders mvps.org> wrote:
Either get rid of McAfee
Are you suggesting that McAfee is the cause of this bug?
I don't think so, I don't have any AV running, and I've now got it in 2 mail folders.

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Apr 30 2008, 05:26 AM | Tags: Unknown Etc Error Twist
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"Peacekeeper"
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Any way to disable the recovery mechanism?

Not that I know of. Gary VanderMolen
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colandy
May 1 2008, 01:24 AM | Tags: Twist Error Unknown Etc
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"Gary VanderMolen" wrote:

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I think the reason this problem is so difficult to diagnose is because there is more than one failure mechanism. Those who have anti-virus scanning their email seem to be more prone to the problem, but it's not the only cause. Some firewall, anti-spam, anti-malware, and security 'suite' programs also scan emails.

Ok I will disable all email scanning including spam killer Remember WM has its own junk mail feature .
The next boot I get back a recovered Newsgroup that I hadnt accessed in 2 days gees this is getting painfull.
Will try the disabling spamkiller and VS email scanning and see what goes, thanks for your comments Tony
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May 1 2008, 11:54 PM | Tags: Twist Unknown Etc Error
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"Peacekeeper"
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I don't think so, I don't have any AV running, and I've now got it in 2 mail folders.
Nigel M
Seems since it started each boot recovers mail or newsgroups. Today it recovered newsgroups I unsubscribed to several boots back. In fact, I had 3 recovered copies of the newsgroup 1 for each boot since the last time I cleaned up the recovered folder.
We all hear of workarounds we do that as well in the mcafee forum but if something is broken we stir the powers that be for a fix. I assume noone here can stir the pot for the suffering masses.
Any way to disable the recovery mechanism?


Yes, I'm saying I think McAfee is causing it. Mine went away when I uninstalled AVG (not just disabled). I'm now using Avast.
Totally uninstall McAfee, remove the mail account, close WinMail, then open WinMail and add the account back.

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May 2 2008, 04:37 PM | Tags: Twist Unknown Etc Error
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Still getting a recovered newsgroup that I havent accessed in days picked up. Will dig further tony
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May 3 2008, 01:19 PM | Tags: Etc Unknown Error Twist
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The only way I know to get rid of it is to wipe out the database and the message store by moving all of it to another directory. Then you have a clean start.
steve
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Still getting a recovered newsgroup that I havent accessed in days picked up. Will dig further tony

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May 3 2008, 04:40 PM | Tags: Error Unknown Twist Etc
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tony
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The only way I know to get rid of it is to wipe out the database and the message store by moving all of it to another directory. Then you have a clean start.
steve
"Peacekeeper" Still getting a recovered newsgroup that I havent accessed in days picked up. Will dig further tony

Yeah that was the only way I got things working. Though emporting your emails weeking as a backup was what saved me as my fiddling with the WM files messed everything up for some reason and I had to rebuild from my backup.
Still the question is why no fix?
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May 4 2008, 02:30 AM | Tags: Etc Twist Unknown Error
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"Peacekeeper"
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tony
"Steve Cochran" wrote:
The only way I know to get rid of it is to wipe out the database and the message store by moving all of it to another directory. Then you have a clean start.
steve
"Peacekeeper" Still getting a recovered newsgroup that I havent accessed in days picked up. Will dig further tony

Yeah that was the only way I got things working. Though emporting your emails weeking as a backup was what saved me as my fiddling with the WM files messed everything up for some reason and I had to rebuild from my backup.
Still the question is why no fix?

Because "programming by committee" is not an efficient way to develop or fix a product.
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